Br. Mubashir Good Job. Salaat in Quraan

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Date: Sep 6, 2013 12:46 AM
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Good Job brother Mubashir.

Bukhari Lovers usually refers the below shown (Bukhari Muslim) hadith in every conversation of namaaz , but when they are demanded to produce it's correct Hadith Number they revert back. I wonder whether this Hadith really exist or not..? Indeed if it really exist then please help me with it's Hadith No.

You are correct. Hadith Fanatics are in impression that it is the Bukhari or Muslim Hadith which guides the complete method of Salah including the posture of Ruku and Sujood, but I can voucher the guarantee taken by you that nobody can learn "how to pray" from  any Bukhari or Muslim Hadith.  And brother Riaz also posed a good question by asking them to produce a Bukhari Muslim Hadith which should be accepted by majority of Muslims.

In my vicinity there are many people who doesn't even knew what is Sahi and Galat Bukhari. There are people who accept any lies in the name of Rasool to be True. Always the sect of Tableek Jamaat and Ahle Hadess have a massive rivalry. Both tease each other while passing in the markets. When I rebuffed both of their ideas and said Quran is the only Hadith., Some people started calling me as an agent of ISRAEL, Some address me as Yahood-o-Nasara. Some say I'm paid from western countries for creating fitna. Observing this propaganda one day I was interviewed by few Ulema, and later on in one voice all the chiefs of the society released a Fatwa as Kafir. When I offer Salah in the masjid nobody wants to stand beside me. Now my current situation is, if any Muslim found interacting with me in the market areas or stayed\visited my home for long hours, has to report the Masjid Community for giving an Self Defense explanation or else he too will be declared as Ghair Muqalid.

Alhamdullilah all praises to Allah, irrespective to all these kinds of hurdles my life is very simple.

From: Mubashir Inayet <minayet@yahoo.com>
To: Riaz Jafri <jafri@rifiela.com>; "ModerateMuslims@yahoogroups.com" <ModerateMuslims@yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Saturday, 22 June 2013 11:46 PM
Subject: Re: [ModerateMuslims] RE: Salaat fil Quraan.

I can guarantee that no one can ever learn how to pray from the Hadith alone.  There are hundreds of ahadith that tell bits and pieces of different stories about how to pray.  The best that the Pharisees of our time can come up is the hadith that reports the Prophet (sws) as saying "Pray as you see me praying".  Well, according to this hadith, we should do the same.  We should pray as we "see the Prophet praying". I am sure you see him praying everyday, don't you, brothers and sisters.

And how about if I say to you as Chemistry teacher "Study Chemistry as you see me studying it"!  Would you call me a good teacher of Chemistry?

Is there any hadith in which the Prophet of Allah actually DEMONSTRARED to believers as to how to pray????  I mean, isn't a teacher supposed to demonstrate rather than just saying "Pray as you see me praying".  Don't you notice many ahadith that begin with "he saw/heard the Prophet doing that".  Does just seeing a teacher doing something make a teacher excellent?  Isn't a teacher supposed to hold classes, halaqas, formal training sessions?

If you go through these ahadith related to Salat, you will note that most of these ahadith are just answers to people's questions—no actual 'teaching' by the Prophet is seen in these stories because there is not a single report that he ever gathered people, held a former class or session teaching them how to pray.  Still they call all these ahadith 'teaching'.

Now I am posting a famous "Sahih" (whatever that means) in which the Prophet actually TAUGHT a believer how to pray COMPREHENSIVELY (I could find only one hadith of demonstration; if there are some others, please post):

""When you intend to observe the Prayer, first perform Wudu well; then face the Qiblah and begin the Prayer with Takbir (Allah o Akbar) then recite Al Fatihah and after it some easy passage; then bend down in Ruku' and observe it with perfect peace; then stand up erect; then go down in Sajdah and observe it with perfect peace; then rise from Sajdah and sit upright, and then complete your Prayer in the same manner with perfect calmness and tranquility". (Bukhari and Muslim)""

 

This hadith is allegedly in response to someone who could not do the Salat "properly" and the Prophet "corrected" him.  Study this hadith and you will note that:

1.  Before the Salat, you must do wudu  (4:6).

2.  Face the Qibla and do the Takbir (Allhau akbar).

3.  Recite Sura Fatiha and then some other sura/passage from the Qur'an.

4.  Bend down in Ruku' in perfect peace (reflection), then stand up erect

5.  Go down in Sajdah in perfect state of peace (reflect).

6.  Rise from the Sajdah and sit upright and complete the prayer.

This is how the Prophet (allegedly) taught how to offer the "Salat".  

NOW, the following points can EASILY and CERTAINLY be extracted from this Hadith:  

1.  There is ONLY ONE rak'at in the Salat (ALL the Salats).

2.  There is ONLY ONE Sajdah  in the Salat (ALL the Salats).

3.  There is NO "Tasleem" or  any special way how to end the prayer.

and,

4.  There is no instruction of turning face left and right at the end of the Salat (buck up Shias!!!!!).  See 2:177.

Sooooo, how do the "Muslims" pray?  Do they follow this particular Hadith?  Heck no!  They follow the same mullahs they ALWAYS follow.  For them, Mullah is ABOVE the Qur'an as well as above the Hadith.  Mullah uses Hadith ONLY if it suits him and his power.

 

Irfan

 

From: Riaz Jafri <jafri@rifiela.com>
To: ModerateMuslims@yahoogroups.com; 'Mubashir Inayet' <minayet@yahoo.com>
Cc: 'Syed Fawad Masood Raza' <syedfraza@gmail.com>; 'DrMuhammad Mukhtar Alam' <nafmor08@gmail.com>; 'Sajid Husain' <sajid@shusain.com>; 'Ansar Raza'
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 2:11:07 PM
Subject: RE: [ModerateMuslims] RE: Salaat fil Quraan.

 

I didn't want to enter the discussion but now it has come to a point that has evoked my interest in it too.

Mr. Muzaffaruddin Ahmed has dared Masood Raza to "Explain Salat from Quran? Make a simple small video clip –

demonstrate each action mention by verse by verse so we can explain the Salat to the people."  And he goes further to say," Hurry-up ! Do something in the way of Allah and Islam. Do not waste time here."

May I ask the respected learned to do the same from Hadeeth.  Only, his version of the salat must be acceptable to all Muslims. I am not very sure if he can find ONE hadees only ONE hadees that would describe the actual mechanics of the ritual acceptable to I all fiqahs and schools of thought,

Best Regards

Col. Riaz Jafri (Retd)  

From: ModerateMuslims@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ModerateMuslims@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Muzafferuddin ahmed
Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2013 9:49 PM
To: Mubashir Inayet
Cc: Syed Fawad Masood Raza; ModerateMuslims@yahoogroups.com; DrMuhammad Mukhtar Alam; Sajid Husain; Ansar Raza; Axk1023; express; NAtion Pakistan; shahzad_shah@yahoo.com; mitha@nawaijang.com; sajid@shusai.com; ZinaKhan unknown; od eenj; rasyed@emirates.net.ae;
Subject: Re: [ModerateMuslims] RE: Salaat fil Quraan.

 

 

Explain Salat from Quran? Make a simple small video clip - demonstrate each action mention by verse by verse so we can explain the Salat to the people. The easy way and you will get reward. 

 

You people should be pro-active and if you firm believer of the Quran then take lead and present the world, the Salat with Quran.

 

Hurry-up ! Do something in the way of Allah and Islam. Do not waste time here. Just abusing yourself.

 

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Mubashir Inayet <minayet@yahoo.com>wrote:

Sorry, the Quran came with a guarantee of preservation from Allah; besides it was written down and compiled in a Book. Not Hadith which was collected based on hearsay many generations after. 

 

By the way, which version of hadith? Shia or Sunni? Which grade? Why one and why not the other.

 

Wake up!!

  

From: Syed Fawad Masood Raza <syedfraza@gmail.com>
To: ModerateMuslims@yahoogroups.com
Cc: DrMuhammad Mukhtar Alam <nafmor08@gmail.com>; Sajid Husain
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2013 12:10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [ModerateMuslims] RE: Salaat fil Quraan.

 

This man does not understand the concept of 'wahi' or 'fiqh'. It is useless to argue against him. 

 

Quran was transmitted by Rasoolullah (saw) and so was hadith. The people who collected the Quran were the same who collected the hadith, although ahadith are graded in terms of their transmission. 

 

 

 On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Syed Ali <sabahatca@hotmail.com>wrote:

 

 

أَعُوذُ بِٱللَّهِ مِنَ ٱلشَّيۡطَـٰنِ ٱلرَّجِيمِ

بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ

Feel free to practise whatever you like. ALLAH taala had detailed HIS religion in alQuraan and that does not mention any "wajib" or "sunnat".

Islam is simple as compare to your religion. If it would have been any difficult, still it would be my religion and not yours.

وَهَـذَا كِتَابٌ أَنزَلْنَاهُ مُبَارَكٌ فَاتَّبِعُوهُ وَاتَّقُواْ لَعَلَّكُمْ تُرْحَمُونَ 6:155
6:155 And this is a Book which We have revealed as a blessing: so follow it and be righteous, that ye may receive mercy
Syed Ali,

Muslim.

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