MENSTRUAL PERIODS.

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Date: Aug 27, 2013 12:51 AM
Subject: █▓▒░(°TaNoLi°)░▒▓█ Re: [alwayz2gather] MENSTRUAL PERIODS.‏‏‏‏
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Mr. Syed Sadruddin

I deeply regret for the too late reply on this topic.

It is understood that you are impartial in understanding the plain Quranic verses quoted by Brother Imtiaz. He asked you something else, and you replied him the same copy paste as usually you do.

On the other hand, It wouldn't be a bad idea to say that you are good in beating the same drum, due to which I would like to remind you the tactful mockery made upon you by Syed Qasim for this too much repeating of your same information.

The Mockery goes like this:-

Shadi ki Dawat ho, Janaze ka pakwaan ho, chahe kuch bi dawat ho, Kavva (crow) waha aata zarur hai. Kai Kai kai kai.... karna shuru kardeta hai. Topic chahe kuch bi ho tum apna wahi puran dhol bajana shuru kar dete ho. Agar tumko mukamal Quran ki maloomat hoti tho hamesha wahi purana e-mail repeat nahi karte.

Now let's come back to the topic:- According to your belief rituals of Namaz are mentioned only in Hadith, but not in Quran. So kindly enlighten us the proper ref of hadith no which guides the method of Salah from beginning of Wadu to ending of Salaam.

On other side you don't blindly believe the Mullah as you have numerous problems with their speeches. So let us know whether the Quran or your favorite Mullah teach you to follow, only those hadith which are in conformity of Quran....? or did bukhari said to reject and throw away all those hadiths which are in contradiction of Quran...? Or is it from your own mind to have such kind of believe. Please provide a reference to the Context for your beliefs.

In the same forums, numerous numbers of times, A person went by name Muhammad Jhangir and Brother Syed Ali, Student of Quran Irtaza and many more people also proved the method of Namaz including the no of rakaats. Quran is not for nuts and buffoons. It is said in Quran that people have eyes but can't read, they have heart but can't understand. So certainly you are one among from them that is why blatantly you admitted that you can't find the verses of Salah from Quran. When you can't understand the two plain verses shown by Imtiaz then there is no scope to predict that you have the ability of understanding all those verses related to Namaz.
Any way two pdf files are attached one is made by Syed Ali who is already in the CC list.

Quit Bukhari completely, if you are in real need of Islam. Rejecting a part of Hadith is not Islam. On the DOJ a person whoever followed only Quran, will be identified as Musalmaan.

Hadith fanatics frequently show the verse 3:31 and 32 and insist to follow the Bukhari Hadith. If this is the case, then in accordance of Quran "Islam is a Religion referred to the Religion of our Immam Ibrahim" (Pbuh) (2:130,135; 3:95; 4:125; 6:161; 12:37-38; 21:73; 22:78). And the last Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) too was inspired to follow the "Millat of Father Ibrahim" (16:123). Offspring's of Leader Ibrahim too followed the "Millat of Ibrahim" (a.s). (21:73; 11:87; 19:31-59). If the hadith fanatics believe that one should follow Muhammad (pbuh) via Bukhari Hadith, then what books we have to refer in order to follow the Millat of Ibrahim (a.s)...? Quran say's those who turn away from the Milat of Ibrahim have be-fooled themselves (2:130). So what is procedure to follow the Millat of Ibrahim...?

In this same tread some other person asked a question about the eating of Fish, whereas it's very simple to trace out the verse referring to the eating of fish in Quran. Just Install any Quran software and go to search command you will find few more references of Fish.

16:14. He it is who has subjected the sea (to you), that you eat thereof fresh tender meat (i.e. fish), and that you bring forth out of it ornaments to wear.

In 18:62 Musa (a.s) too asked the FISH as a morning meal.

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ASA. The details of many of the rituals like Namaz, Hajj, fasting etc. are based on Hadiths which are in conformity with directives of Allah. Hence we should follow them. That is my point. In any case preference is to be given to Quran only which is the word of God.  We generally observe that our Imams before Juma Prayers do not project Quranic knowledge or Guidance of Allah on all matters of life, problems and solutions. They indulge in lengthy speeches/Khitabs based on tales and stories, sayings and traditions, weak Hadiths etc. to confuse us and to keep us dependent upon them. They also make long Dua after Namaz which is a personal matter between Allah and his Bunda as every person has his own problem.  This needs to be corrected as the duty of Imam is to lead the prayers only and not to make DUA for all of us which amounts to becoming a Wasila prohibited by Allah. Thanks.     
 

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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 02:52:26 -0700
From: iwillnotgive@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: (°TaNoLi°)â–'â–'â–"â–ˆ MENSTRUAL PERIODS.â€â€â€â€
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Assalam AlaiKum WaRahamatullahi Wa Barakatahu

Brother Syed Sadruddin.
MaashaAllah, It's good to hear the below mentioned from you:-

• You agreed Hadiths were never written by our prophet.
• You agreed Hadiths are tales and stories.
  
• You agreed compared to Quran our Mullahs exploit commonly Hadiths. 

But it is quite optimistic to hear that you are encouraging to accept those Hadiths which gives the conformity of Noble Quran. But in fact there is no requirement to encourage such man narrated tales, even if they tally with Quran or either they talk about the eloborated explanation any of the Quranic Verse....?
Teachings of Bible, Old & New Testaments, Psalm, Vedas, and Mahabharat... including the books of Williams Shakespeare, Mahatma Ghandi or whoever etc etc... bla bla bla.... also gives the conformity of Quran. Now would you still like to encourage these Hadiths and tales as they stand as conformity of Quran...?
Beware Quran is the only source of Islam.
Quran alone is sufficient enough to practice the complete Islam.
It doesn't require any supporting Hadith, neither it requires any conformity of any other Hadith.

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From: Syed Sadruddin Hussain <sydsadr@hotmail.com>
To: Imtiaz Shaik <iwillnotgive@yahoo.com>; Muhammad Khalid Qureshi <mkq4pak@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013 5:29 PM
Subject: RE: (°TaNoLi°)â–'â–'â–"â–ˆ MENSTRUAL PERIODS.â€â€â€â€

To close this prolong discussion, Allah has clearly said that none and not even our Prophet was authorized to change/amend or deviate from the Quran (10:15,64/18:27). The Hadiths were never written by our Prophet to be termed as reliable and authentic. Hence all such man written Hadiths, sayings, traditions, stories. tales so commonly exploited by our Mullahs to confuse and deviate us should only be accepted if they are in conformity with the Quran. Further our Prophet and neither never exposed his private life as projected by our friend, Agha Tareen on the basis of a bogus Hadith. How can Bibi Zainab exposed herself on such a private and sexual matter of having menses. Reject this bogus Hadith. We should all encourage reading of translation of Quran to understand Islam correctly and to avoid misguidance and exploitation and religious domination of Mullahs as priesthood is debarred  by Allah (57:27). Thanks.  
 

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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 03:31:22 -0700
From: iwillnotgive@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: (°TaNoLi°)â–'â–'â–"â–ˆ MENSTRUAL PERIODS.â€â€â€â€
To: mkq4pak@gmail.com
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Assalam AlaiKum WaRahamatullahi Wa Barakatahu

Mr. Qureshi.

As it was informed informed in my previous mail that Quran is a better Tafseer 25:33. Meaning of Tafseer = Explanation.

So when we have a Better ( Tafseer ) Explanation then why do we need some other man narrated Hadith..? Is it just because you cant find the method of Salah, Umra, Zakaat, Hajj....etc in Quran?

Dear you are in the brightest part of the Rajeem's darkness. You need to help yourselves to come out of it, but don't blame AR-Raheem by saying that he did not described the method of Prayer Hajj Umra in his Quran.

Until unless you delete the concept of bukhari from your mind you can't find those verses related to the chronological order of Salah  as described in Quran.

Quran is for the people of intellects, so don't underestimate yourselves by admitting that you are blind folded to pick out all those verses related to Prayer. Ex. You will not find all the names of Allah in one Sura or in any one Verse. Similarly the method of Salah is also not described in one sura nor in any one single verse. so you should posses that bright vision to accumulate those verses as you had accumulated all those verses pertaining to the 99 names of Allah.

Allah says in 18: 54.

We have put forth every kind of example in this Qur'ân, for mankind. But, man is ever more quarrelsome than anything. Nothing is Neglected in Quran : 6 :38

These verses implies a meaning that even the example of daily Prayer is also put forth in Quran. In order to extend your support to Bukhari not Surprisingly, you will ignore these verses and very soon you will turn into a man of quarrelsome than anything as quoted in the above verse

Muhammad Khalid Qureshi Said:- The Hadees is the true definition of Quran. Without Hadees you can't understand Quran.

Rajeem must be Cheering up today that he found one more follower of him. By narrating the above statement you had superseded the teaching of Bukhari. Because bukhari never said in his book that his narrated Hadith is a true statement of Quran.

FYI:- Allah too did not said anywhere in his last book (Quran) that without Hadees men can't understand Quran. Either it is not said in Quran that men need a separate book of Hadith to understand Raheem's Book.

One more Information:- Neither Quran nor your Guru Ji Late Bukhari said that without the Bukhari Hadees men can't understand Quran.

If you still feel that you are correct in your argument then bring us a Bukhari Hadtih including the Hadith No. & Volume Number which explains the correct Chronological Method of  Salah. i.e from Takbeer to ending of Salah...?

Imtiaz Shaik

Hyderabad.

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From: Muhammad Khalid Qureshi <mkq4pak@gmail.com>
To: Imtiaz Shaik <iwillnotgive@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: (°TaNoLi°)â–'â–'â–"â–ˆ MENSTRUAL PERIODS.â€â€â€â€

Mr Imtiaz

The Hadees is the true definition of Quran. Without Hadees you can't understand Quran. there are many things where Quran doesn't tell how we do that. for example Quran says that Say the Prayer, but didn't tell the procedure how to say the prayer , like this there are many which can be elaborated but not here , first of all correct your beliefs and then say that. may Allah guide all of us to the right path..Aameen

I CAN SEE U IN MY HANDS WHENEVER I JOIN THEM FOR PRAY
YOUR FACE IS ONE OF THOSE WHO LIVE IN MY HEART....

 

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On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Imtiaz Shaik <iwillnotgive@yahoo.com> wrote:

Assalam AlaiKum WaRahamatullahi Wa Barakatahu

Mr . Agha sahab & Khalid
You both had incorrectly understood the correct message of brother Sadruddin.
He did not admit that you people had narrated "Bhukhari Vol. 1 Bk 6 page number 405" hadith on your own. His intention is to say that with the help of Rajeem's Community  a man with name Bukhari and his group had attempted to corrupt Islam 1300 years (Apprx.) ago by stimulating tons of fake, fabricated, Bogus Hadiths in the Name of Rasool Mohammad (Pbuh).
Not surprisingly, majority Muslims are in assumption that Bukhari Hadith is a secondary authentic source of "AR-RAHEEM" Religion.
Infact it is not is the religion of AR-Raheem, indeed it is the religon of "RAJEEM".
Please be informed:- AR-Raheem is the Teacher of Muslims
Beware:- Rajeem was the Teacher of Bukhari and his Gang.
According to Chapter 39: Verse 22:- There is only one Hasan (Best, Better) hadith which is Called as Quran.
According to Ch: 25 Verse 33 :- There is only one Hasan (Best Better) Tafseer and it is Known as Quran.
اللÙ'َه٠نَزÙ'ÙŽÙ„ÙŽ Ø£ÙŽØ­Ù'سَنَ الÙ'حَدÙيث٠كÙتَابًا  25:33 
الل۠ Ù†Û' بÛترین حَدÙيث٠نازل Ùرمایا ÛÛ'   
39:22 جÙئÙ'نَاكَ بÙالÙ'Ø­ÙŽÙ‚ÙÙ' ÙˆÙŽØ£ÙŽØ­Ù'سَنَ تَÙÙ'سÙيرًا

ÛÙ… آپ Ú©Û' پاس  Ø­Ù‚ اور بÛتر  ØªÙŽÙÙ'سÙيرً کا بیان Ù„Û' آتÛ' Ûیں

Therefore Accept Islam as it is described in Quran, but not as described by Bukhari. Or else be prepared to abode hell.
To understand Islam one doesn't need to have the knowledge of Rajeem Hadees. Knowledge of Ar- Raheem's Quran is sufficient to follow Al-Islam.

Imtiaz Shaik

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From: Muhammad Khalid Qureshi <mkq4pak@gmail.com>
To: MSHOAIBTANOLI@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2013 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: â–ˆâ–"â–'â–'(°TaNoLi°)â–'â–'â–"â–ˆ RE: MENSTRUAL PERIODS.â€â€â€â€

Very well said Bhai Agha 

I hope these all peoples can understand now if they have the knowledge about Hadees , its true what you have posted from Sahee Bukharee

I CAN SEE U IN MY HANDS WHENEVER I JOIN THEM FOR PRAY
YOUR FACE IS ONE OF THOSE WHO LIVE IN MY HEART....

 

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On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Agha Tareen <tareenagha@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sadruddin

I would like to clarify that mera kisi firqay se na koee taluk he aur nahi mera koe ghalat intention he k kisi ki dil azari ki jaey, Huzoor Pak Salallah o Alaih wasalam ka faman he k "Pass on knowledge from me even if it is only  one verse"  es faraman ko madde nazar rakhte huay me ne ye kam shuroo keya aur Sahih Bukhari Ahadith jo k Ahadith ka sab se zeyada authentic book he, Hadith number 1 se messages bhejna shuroo keya aur Alhamdolillah aaj 684 ahadith tak puhunch chuka hon, waise to mukhtalif ahadith ham sab k samne aati rahti hain, lekin Ahadith k complete book me keya rehnemae mojood he, ye sab musalmano ko maloom hona cheay, es leay 1 number hadith se shuroo keya aur aage kahan tak zindagi sath deti he, wallah alam bisawab, Ye hadith jis par aap ne aiteraz keya he ye  authentic hadith he, jo k Sahih Al Bhukhari k Volume 1 Book 6 page number 405 par mujood he, ye meri mangharat Hadith nahi he, aap kisi bhi alam e din se pooch sakte hain ya kisi liberary me ja k Sahih Al Bukhari ki kitab me mulahiza kar sakte hain.

ALLAH swt ham sab ko serate mustaqim aur Rasoolullah salallah o alaih wasalam k bataey huaey raste par chalne ki taufiq atta farmaey. aameen  

On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Syed Sadruddin Hussain <sydsadr@hotmail.com> wrote:

This is utter nonsense to project such a man-made, unreliable and bogus writing in the name of 'Hadith'. Mr. Tareen avoid such insulting and non reliable words to spoil  the image and private life of our Prophet. Make Tauba.    
 

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From: aknayyar@hotmail.com
To: sydsadr@hotmail.com; aknayyar@hotmail.com
Subject: MENSTRUAL PERIODS.â€â€â€â€
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 20:31:09 -0400

My dear Syed Sadruddin  sb
It is very late ,when I saw this email
I am sorry to reply late.
I  am agreed to condemn such Hadith.
I will definitely spread it.
What is this NONSENCE ?
Thank you for attention.
Afzal Khan 

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From: sydsadr@hotmail.com
To: aknayyar@hotmail.com; msbaig32@gmail.com
Subject: FW: â–ˆâ–"â–'â–'(°TaNoLi°)â–'â–'â–"â–ˆ SAHIH AL BUKHARI VOL 1 BOOK 6 No.322 MENSTRUAL PERIODS.â€â€â€â€
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 17:10:09 -0400

Please see this and we should all condemn such indecent exposure of the private lives of our Prophet and Hazrath Zainab. Sadruddin
 

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From: sydsadr@hotmail.com
To: mshoaibtanoli@googlegroups.com; tarenagha@gmail.com
Subject: RE: â–ˆâ–"â–'â–'(°TaNoLi°)â–'â–'â–"â–ˆ SAHIH AL BUKHARI VOL 1 BOOK 6 No.322 MENSTRUAL PERIODS.â€â€â€â€
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 14:46:33 -0400

 This so called Hadith can not be reliable as there is open talk of menses between the Prophet and Zainnab,. How come such private talk of the bedroom can come out in the open. All Hadiths should be in conormity with the Quran ( 10:15,64/18:27).

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Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 06:43:24 +0500
Subject: â–ˆâ–"â–'â–'(°TaNoLi°)â–'â–'â–"â–ˆ SAHIH AL BUKHARI VOL 1 BOOK 6 No.322 MENSTRUAL PERIODS.â€â€â€â€
From: tareenagha@gmail.com
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In the name of ALLAH most gracious and most mercifull.

The Prophet (PBUH) said "Pass on knowledge from me even if it is only  one verse"

Bismillah Walhamdulillah Was Salaatu Was Salaam 'ala Rasulillah  
As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu 

Narrated by Zainab bint Abi Salama (Radhiallaho anha):
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Um-Salama said,
"I got my menses while I was lying with the Prophet under a woolen sheet.
So I slipped away, took the clothes for menses and put them on.
Allah's Apostle said, 'Have you got your menses?' I replied, 'Yes.'
Then he called me and took me with him under the woolen sheet."
Um Salama further said,
"The Prophet used to kiss me while he was fasting.
The Prophet and I used to take the bath of Janaba from a single pot."



Agha Tareen

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پاکستان کسی بھی پاکستانی Ú©Û' لئÛ' Ø§Ù„Ù„Û Ú©ÛŒ سب سÛ' بÚ'ÛŒ نعمتوں میں سÛ' ایک ÛÛ'. آج ÛÙ… جو بھی ÛÛ' ÛŒÛ Ø³Ø¨ اس ÙˆØ¬Û Ù¾Ø§Ú©Ø³ØªØ§Ù† Ú©ÛŒ ÛÛ' ØŒ دوسری صورت میں ØŒ ÛÙ… Ú©Ú†Ú¾ بھی Ù†Ûیں Ûوتا. Ø¨Ø±Ø§Û Ù…Ûربانی پاکستان Ú©Û' لئÛ' مخلص ÛÙˆ.
 
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پاکستان کسی بھی پاکستانی کے لئے اللہ کی سب سے بڑی نعمتوں میں سے ایک ہے. آج ہم جو بھی ہے یہ سب اس وجہ پاکستان کی ہے ، دوسری صورت میں ، ہم کچھ بھی نہیں ہوتا. براہ مہربانی پاکستان کے لئے مخلص ہو.
 
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Karachi Pakistan
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