Date: Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 7:29 AM
Subject: █▓▒░(°TaNoLi°)░▒▓█ RE: Taliban declare Kalima go Muslims as Murtad
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All this is due to lack of literacy and Quranic knowledge. Hence we should promote literacy along with reading of translation of Quran and its directives to the masses through the Madressahs and schools and colleges to make them follow the right path of Islam for peace and progress. The Muftis should issue FATWA against killings of Muslims by the Talibans. Thanks.
Syed Sadruddin Hussain
Markham, On. Canada.
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:26:07 -0500
Subject: Re: Taliban declare Kalima go Muslims as Murtad
From: kavalec@gmail.com
To: tahirakhan@comcast.net
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Keep calling them out.
This Taliban mullah admits that there are 'innocent" (even according to his tiny mind) Muslims who also get killed. However, he never apologized for the loss of those "innocent" people—nor I have ever heard ANY of these butchers admitting to killing innocent Muslims or even feeling sorry for them! These Taliban mullahs are not human beings—they are animals---they don't feel a thing when they kill.
The Qur'an tells us that an attack on the kuffar was prevented by Allah because there were some "believers" in their midst that the Prophet did not know. Allah called it "crime would have been committed" if those believers were to also killed at the hands of the their brothers.
"48:25 (Picktall) These it was who disbelieved and debarred you from the Inviolable Place of Worship, and debarred the offering from reaching its goal. And if it had not been for believing men and believing women, whom ye know not--lest ye should tread them under foot and thus incur guilt for them unknowingly; that Allah might bring into His mercy whom He will--If (the believers and the disbelievers) had been clearly separated We verily had punished those of them who disbelieved with painful punishment."
So much for the "collateral damage" done by the Qur'an-illiterate Taliban.
Irfan
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Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 12:19 AM
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Subject: Re: Taliban declare Kalima go Muslims as Murtad
The Mullah was talking more about battling Pakistan army who is duty bound to act against those who put the security of the country at risk by crossing the border and attacking the US/Nato and Afghan forces. I guess for some Pakistan army and those who are against regressive ideology of Taliban are Baatil.
The man recited the Kalima and asked the Talib if he still considered him as a Murtad? The Talib replied he did consider him a Muslim.
If a militant group crossed the indo pak border to attack Pakistan army or civilians, Pakistan would put India on notice to stop them or else.
The man was saying the Muhammad Ali Jinnah was a Kafir Azam because he was a Shia Ismaili. The man justified killing of innocents and women and children by quoting instances from the ahadees which no one can prove true. The man justified looting banks to fund their activities and to kidnap prisoners to ask for ransom.
US invaded Afghanistan because of 911 which Osama claimed to own. It is not there for a picnic.
The man declared Shias Kafirs and also Nasrallah of Lebanon who put up a fierce resistance against Israel.
The man claimed responsibility for killing scholars who were critical of Taliban.
Next plan on their agenda is invasion of India based on some kind of hadees report and not the Qur'an.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:15:45 PM
Subject: Re: Taliban declare Kalima go Muslims as MurtadASA
I have listened the debate very clearly. Perhaps you are intentionally misinterpreting it or confusing the people. The interpreter has given glaring examples from the Qur'an and the Seerah of Rasulullah (S) and you are denying them??
Are you denying them outrageously their right to fight against Batil forces that are playing havoc in Pakistan and the Muslim world?
Please think where you stand and how Ummah is behaving in the name of Islam. Even it does not understand the meanings and the concept of "La Ilaha Ilallah"
SAS
In a message dated 9/14/2011 11:02:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tahirakhan@comcast.net writes:
So you don't feel ashamed! You are such a stubborn hypocrite that when clear proofs are given to you, you dismiss them as "confusion" and "disservice". Listen to the debate again with a unbiased mind and tell me what makes you "confused". These tapes are downright bone-chilling and clear as a whistle. If they did not terrify you, you must be one of them.
They expose the dark ugly face of the Taliban. I wish this tape were shown to all those who are or have been even a tiny bit sympathetic towards them.
Irfan
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Subject: Re: Taliban declare Kalima go Muslims as Murtad
ASA
This heading is extremely abusive, misleading and creates confusion about Taliban. This is a disservice to the people who are fighting against global oppression of superpower, especially in the Muslim world. Only an agent of Zalimeen can do it.
Honesty demands that you all put the things in correct perspective. If not, better keep quite and don't make Islam your toy
SAS
In a message dated 9/14/2011 9:37:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, msa7011@yahoo.com writes:
Like the clouds, mountains and the skies (sic), the fire also have a vocal cord. That is why it would ask Allah for more humans to come to it so that it could satisfy its "hunger"!
Who can believe in such a nonsense?
Only the Muslims!!
Mohammad Asghar
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: Taliban declare Kalima go Muslims as MurtadAsghar, don't worry. Kaukab will always be on your side. In fact, there are lot more—millions and millions-- on the sidelines who are already on your side. You have a HUGE company.
You know Who will ask the Hell the following question: Are you full?......And the Hell will say "Are there more?"
The Hell has a HUUUUGE stomach so don't worry about the company. You have plenty!
Irfan
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 4:48 PM
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Subject: Re: Taliban declare Kalima go Muslims as Murtad
"Don't spread Taliban publicity.
They are using Qur'an and Hadith which is difficult to rebut."
You are absolutely right. Thanks a lot for being so candid and truthful!
How about taking out the Quran completely and Hadiths from the lives of the Muslims?
If you do it, then the question of rebuttal will not arise, am I right?
Why don' we make an attempt to rid Muslims of what they so fervently believe and act upon, whenever they get the chance?
Mohammad Asghar
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: Taliban declare Kalima go Muslims as MurtadDon't spread Taliban publicity.
They are using Qur'an and Hadith which is difficult to rebut.
Many more people may join Taliban if you continue to do this.
This is very dangerous.
Please stop!
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Mubashir Inayet <minayet@yahoo.com> wrote:
You can never change this mindset. Those who understand Urdu should listen to this conversation rapt attention between a soldier and a Taliban leader:
A 36 minute audio/video.
After listening to this we learn how exactly the Taliban mind works and what their future plans are. It also shows why the Taiban feel no remorse after bombing and killing others. This will highlight how ahadees are used to justify all kinds of actions.
There are many in Pakistan who agree with this kind of thinking even if they wear suits and ties.
Moby
پاکستان کسی بھی پاکستانی کے لئے اللہ کی سب سے بڑی نعمتوں میں سے ایک ہے. آج ہم جو بھی ہے یہ سب اس وجہ پاکستان کی ہے ، دوسری صورت میں ، ہم کچھ بھی نہیں ہوتا. براہ مہربانی پاکستان کے لئے مخلص ہو.
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